Story-driven GC / campaign

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27 Jan 2018 11:16 - 23 Jun 2018 18:44 #88676 von Boriss
Story-driven GC / campaign wurde erstellt von Boriss
As you are probably aware, there was supposed to be a film called Stargate: Extinction. Then cancelled, then maybe revived and so forth.

Let us stick to the idea of extinction. Now, we can add brand new enemies, but let us keep low profile. Who is threatened with extincion by the end of SG Atlantis? The Asgard race in Ida is gone and all that remains are their cousins in Pegasus. The lost tribe. We know they are hiding on a planet with toxic atmosphere but are running out of time. Since their failed attempt to use the Attero device to destroy the wraith, they are in desperate need of aid.

So, let us imagine that the Wraith have found the Asgard last bastion. Let us call this planet Bastus. Why would the Wraith seek to wipe them out? Because they see them as a potential enemy. Because they have something the Wraith need. Energy generation technology. As mentioned by Rodney, that is the Achilles heel of their technology. The more energy, the bigger and stronger hive ships they can grow. And thus they will not give up this grand prize. Asgard, desperate to survive, send out a signal. Call for aid. Atlantis, as a city-ship formerly belonging to their allies, the Ancients, will catch this signal. And so the race to save the Asgard begins. At first, only one hive ship and small escort fleet is besieging the planet Bastus. But as soon as the Tau´ri intervene, this conflict starts to grow. Until, ultimately, the whole Wraith race bonds together once again. And so the War of Extinction begins. Only one can survive. The Asgard or the Wraith race will die. Or so it seems. As the war progresses, moral question begins to rise. Do we (Tau´ri or Wraith) have the right to wipe out an entire race? The Asgard have very advanced cloning program. Maybe making clones the wraith can feed on? As this idea begins to gain root, Tedd will join forces with Asgard and Tau´ri to try and create a prototype hive-ship. One capable of growing clones to feed its crew. But not everyone is comfortable with this idea. Subfactions on both the Wraith and Tau´ri side prefer total annihilation rather than coexistence and cooperation. And so you have to fight renegades and enemies, pirates and natives, to accomplish your goal. And maybe, just maybe, there is someone else out there, who also got the Asgard call for aid. Like the long lost Furling race, or the secretive and stealthy Nox.

Alright, I will write down here in the first post the story that I have, only from the tau´ri perspective tho, to keep it short. Check for future edits!
The story so far:
A strange signal is received at the Atlantis HQ. Atlantis computer pinpoints the source. It is a planet with atmosphere full of gases and no life-forms are known to be present on the surface. An SG team is sent in a jumper to investigate. A 304 drops them only a short jump away, waiting for the team to investigate in a jumper. That´s where the campaign begins. Jumper enters the system, dialogue about the mission and some asgard tech detected on surface, order to approach stealthily to investigate. Wraith hive ship immediately detected entering the planet´s orbit. After the stealthed jumper approaches a battle is witnessed between the vanir and wraith. Vanir get blown up so the nearby 304 enters the battle (should be a hero ship). When the day is won contact with Vanir is established. They are very distrustful of us, remembering how we sabotaged their plan to blow up all the stargates and wraith ships with Attero device. Thus our task is clear. Gain their trust while keeping the wraith away. Couple of hit and runs on wraith fleets and shipyards in the vicinity should take care of the wraith, although they will eventually come to see what all the fuss is about. The asgard situation is complicated since it is absolutely critical that they manage to save their cloning research and cloning facilities, otherwise they will meet the fate of Othala Asgard. Stargate overseers also are not that happy with us risking all-out war with the wraith. Yet if the wraith get their hands on asgard energy generation tech, they will wipe the galaxy clean in a matter of months. And so, amidst all the enemies (wraith mobilising into a giant fleet to attack the Vanir, Goa´uld remnants appearing (tho since the goa´uld numbers got a pretty big hit, they will act more like Tyber Zann in the original FoC) and natives getting riled up, order comes up to either move the asgard now or blow up the whole planet and run away, ensuring that the wraith will not get their hands on the asgard tech at all costs while also avoiding an all-out war. At this moment Tedd gives us a call, askin to get his claws on the asgard cloning research, promising that letting the wraith grow up their own food will ensure lasting peace (and his dominion over all wraith). What will we do? Do we join Tedd, one of the wraith or do we follow orders? There is no real guarantee that Tedd will be able to control all the wraith nor that he will actually not send them our way after hes the big boss. And if we give the wraith their own means of producing sustenance, what will stop them from conquering everything in their way? If we stand our ground, it will be either the Vanir or the Wraith. One will have to die for the other to live. If we run, the asgard are done for. If we cooperate with Tedd, we may start the greatest wraith conquest since the first contact war between the Wraith and the Ancients. All the while an unknown force speeds towards us, unknown whether friend or foe.
Letzte Änderung: 23 Jun 2018 18:44 von Boriss.

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27 Jan 2018 11:23 #88677 von Leie_Sistal

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27 Jan 2018 11:28 #88678 von Boriss
This, since it will happen after the series, will justify all the massive fleets on Tau´ri side. You can even say that after extensive research into the Asgard data core given to Tau´ri progress of the war demands we resurrect the Asgard Beliskner and O´Neill class ships. Absolute freedom to drive the story any way you wish. And the possibility to create your own spaceships for the Furlings and the Nox. And maybe end the whole thing with "Sir, we are detecting another signal. The Atlantis computer does not recognize it. Something is rushing towards us and we have no idea whether it is friend or foe."

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27 Jan 2018 11:31 #88679 von Leie_Sistal
Yeah this story gives great room for new ideas :). Maybe once we are done with the core of the game, although from what I see it your story will be a lot of work to make it work ingame ^^

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28 Jan 2018 07:41 #88684 von Imperial

As the war progresses, moral question begins to rise. Do we (Tau´ri or Wraith) have the right to wipe out an entire race?

As I mentioned in the other thread I like moral questions, thats true for Tauri - but certainly not for the Wraith, remember they ... haaate hunger :w_evil2:
For a Wraith there is no question whether he is gonna eat you or not, maybe just when he is going to have you and how to get more humans in his claws.

And maybe, just maybe, there is someone else out there, who also got the Asgard call for aid. Like the long lost Furling race, or the secretive and stealthy Nox.

Ok mate you got me here, I always wanted to see anything from the Furlings and more Nox.

I do have something similar in my back head.

will justify all the massive fleets on Tau´ri side.

Blobb
Our models are pretty high poly (more then necessary), you can't spawn spam as many of them as in Sins. Also that would certainly provoke engine crashes so I can already tell we certainly won't raise the population cap.
Though I will add a feature into my tool Imperialware for custom pop cap values.

And the possibility to create your own spaceships for the Furlings and the Nox. And maybe end the whole thing with "Sir, we are detecting another signal. The Atlantis computer does not recognize it. Something is rushing towards us and we have no idea whether it is friend or foe."

:thumbsup:
I'm liking your idea, but mod wise we are currently really struggling to get the mod content done that is already planned for over a decade. Which means new ideas are the easiest part of it.

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28 Jan 2018 09:53 #88685 von Boriss
For the wraith, they will actually risk eating everyone there, causing attrition. The Tau´ri have a clear moral dilemma, but I think we can sneak up some dilemma in for the Wraith as well. Sort of like "We are harvesting entire planets at once to sustain our great armada, if we keep this up we will harvest every human in the galaxy in matter of months/years.

Yeah me too. And I don´t think that letting creativity loose for a moment will do harm. We can always choose to scrap this part anyway.

I don´t know about you but I tend to use more than 1 X-303 when fighting as Tau´ri :D
Plus the Tau´ri were never shown to command a Beliskner class or O´Neill class Asgard ship.
Big conflict can easily justify mass production of the Tau´ri models and after an extensive research into the asgard data core mining out Beliskner and O´Neill classes can´t be that hard to justify. That´s what I meant by "massive armies". To be honest, my idea is that the Tau´ri will defend the Asgard world of Bastus by actually preventing any massive force from forming up. So more like hit and run on smaller forces and supply lines and so on...

This is actually half idea half fanfic. I wish for this to be something everyone can add his ideas to. Just let it sit here and maybe grow until the time is right. But imagine, if we pull this one off, it will be a big story step forward. First such step since the end of Atlantis. The point of making one story driven GC / campaign that unfolds after the end of Atlantis is the degree of freedom you get there. Maybe it will even attract more people to join your team and help do stuff.

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17 Jun 2018 18:27 #88752 von Boriss
If anyone wants to add his ideas to this cauldron, please do so by making only a single post that you will edit as you see fit, for the sake of lucidity.

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23 Jun 2018 03:21 #88769 von Imperial

I wish for this to be something everyone can add his ideas to. Just let it sit here and maybe grow until the time is right.


Yeah as I accompany the ones who have to put all these ideas we already had by now into reality (which means tons of work) I'd prefere to have not any more ideas (= work).

Though I like the idea for an open channel for discussion of GC story plots.
Do you have any ideas how a Tactical Mission (means only on one planet of the gc in space battle and/or ground battle) could look like, as part of a Anubis Campaign?

Maybe the player gets the objective to search for the "eye of the Gods" on that planet, now how would I implement that into the game?

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23 Jun 2018 12:09 - 23 Jun 2018 12:11 #88773 von Boriss
Idea for Anubis:
Salvaging Apophis´ artillery ha´tak might be fun. First use some pre-placed ground units to look around and find the ruins of blown up artillery ha´tak, followed by deploying your own ground forces to secure the place (cap landing zone closer to the site), turrets, establish patrols. After beating a couple of ambushes you find out that a very specific and crucial part is missing, probably taken by scavengers that attacked you earlier. Fight into their camp (they will have more camps so you have to either send scouts or just go in force to multiple camps until youre lucky), get that stuff and its GG.

Space mission for givin that artillery a spin by blowin up Tau´ri space station may follow.
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23 Jun 2018 16:42 #88780 von Imperial
Nice idea, maybe it would be an other ship.
Can you remember what exactly happend to Apophis' artillery hatak?
I think SG1 has blown it up if I remember right.

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